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Talk:Important 한자

2013-01-03T02:04:02Z

공금룡: /* Explanation of 한자 */ new section

I would probably recommend that the first set of 한자 characters be the ones that are most commonly seen in public, on signs, labels and menus. Although I've found learning 한자 very useful for advancing my study, some people may not be interested in learning ones they won't see much. The ones I've seen the most on signs would include 大, 中, 小 (on menus etc.), 韓, 漢, 無, 月, 火, 水, 木, 金, 土, 日, 山, 美, 男, 女, 國, 年, etc. [[User:Jjukumi|Jjukumi]] 08:05, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Lune, looks good to me the way it is, it might be used in an introduction section of that page maybe? Either way it's good information to include^^--[[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 18:00, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Why does "도 <道> - Road / Morality" have a "/" to seperate the words when the other 한자 have a comma. sometimes the comma is used to seperate seemingly unrelated words which share a 한자 like 과's "section, department, science" while some list synonyms. furthermore there is "문 <門> - Door (Family, Specialty) "

I was thinking of editing it to be consistent, but these inconsistencies seem unlikely to be typos, so I am hesitant. I just want to confirm there isn't anything special about the ones that use something other than commas. If there is not, I will use commas when there are multiple meanings and a slash for the synonyms.

[[User:Steven|Steven]] 23:32, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

:Hey Steven, I think the problem is just the style of different editors. We should have some consistency, so I guess we'll go with commas then. --[[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 11:51, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

==Removing some Hanja==
Thinking of removing some of the hanja on this list due to not being that "important." Suggestions on which to delete and which to add? --[[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 12:44, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I added some to the delete section where the words definetly seem like they would be used by an advanced user. and I added maybe delete for the 한자's derived words still seem a bit exclusive compared to the derived words from the remaining 한자.
[[User:Steven|Steven]] 01:55, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

===Delete===
*왕 (王)
*세 <世>
*자 <子>
*본 (本)
*부 <副>
*상 <上>
*지 <紙>
*천 <天>
*퇴 <退>
<br>
===maybe delete===
*우 <雨> - Rain
*인 <人> - Person
*자 <自>
*품 <品> - Product, a good, an item
*휴 <休>

== How should "Important 한자" be defined? ==

People could interpret it a few different ways. It could be 한자 you see written most often, it could be 한자 which you see most often in Korean words (in 한글 form), or it could be the 한자, which will help english speakers learn new words faster. There is obviously overlap between these groups, but I don't think these groups are exactly the same. so I think it is important we difine it, so that all editors have a clear goal.

I think "Important 한자" should be the third category. I think this Important 한자 should be made for beginners since more advanced users will be going after a wider range of 한자 and would not need this page. Therefore I think we should have the 한자 which are most important for learning new Korean words quickly.

I cant think of any good examples right now (probably because I don't know anything about 한자), but I'm sure there are probably some 한자 which are common, but are not roots to allot of common words.

thoughts?
[[User:Steven|Steven]] 01:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

== Explanation of 한자 ==

I think of adding information of the origin and possible explanations of the appearance of 한자 including pictures of historical ways of writing it, especially for pictogramms. Do you think that it is useful to have these explanations within an article like this one or do you think it should be put to the listing articles like [[大]] directly at the rubrique "Additional info"?

Referring to the example 大 the explanation could be: "pictogramm showing man standing with outstretched arms symbolizing 'big'."

--[[User:공금룡|공금룡]] ([[User talk:공금룡|talk]]) 18:04, 2 January 2013 (PST)

User:공금룡

2013-01-03T01:42:48Z

공금룡: some changes

Hey there,

I'm 공금룡(孔金龍), at least, this is my Chinese name read in Korean. I have started learning chinese long before and now for almost 9 months I learn Korean, which is much easier if you already know some chinese vocabulary and characters. Learning 漢字 is a bit tricky for everyone starting to learn Chinese. Most of the learners just try to remember the basic characters and then the combinations but often do not know much about the construction of these characters. I think this is due to a lack of information.

I also had these problems until I started to study chinese literature about characters, i.e. I worked with a chinese 漢字-dictionary, where almost every character was explained. For this Wiki-Project I plan to contribute this knowledge (which is only available in Chinese, Japanese or Korean (see naver), but not in english) for that everyone can easily benefit of it when learning chinese characters without having to study these explanations given in Korean, Chinese or Japanese.

If you whant to support me in doing this or if you are interested in Explanations of special characters, I could just start with the characters you ask for and provide information within the corresponding articles of these 漢字. First of all I need some support for extending the tabulars for a 漢字.

안녕히계세요!

공금룡

User:공금룡

2013-01-03T01:15:31Z

공금룡: About me and my project to explain 漢字.

Hey there,

I'm 공금룡(孔金龍), at least, this is my Chinese name read in Korean. I have started learning chinese long before and now for almost 9 months I learn Korean, which is much easier if you already know some chinese vocabulary and characters. Learning 漢字 is a bit tricky for everyone starting to learn Chinese. Most of the learners just try to remember the basic characters and then the combinations but often do not know much about the construction of these characters. I think this is due to a lack of information.

I also had these problems until I started to study chinese literature about characters, i.e. I worked with a chinese 漢字-dictionary, where almost every character was explained. For this Wiki-Project I plan to contribute this knowledge (which is only available in Chinese, maybe Japanese as far as I know) for that everyone can benefit of it when learning chinese characters.

If you whant to support me in doing this or if you are interested in Explanations of special characters, I could just start with the characters you ask for and provide information within the corresponding articles of these 漢字. First of all I need some support for extending the tabulars for a 漢字.

안녕히계세요!

공금룡