Talk:Learn hangeul

2020-11-28T23:17:04Z

Okeofork: /* Flash is discontinued */ new section

I'm using this talk page to propose a format for the Hangeul pages. This section should be completed in the very near future as it's frequently visited. -[[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 16:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

==Individual pages==
Each Hangeul letter(자모) should have a detailed page:
*Basic sound
*Sound in the initial position (with audio)
*Sound in the middle position (with audio)
*Sound in the final 받침 position (with audio)
*Other sounds this letter is capable of making (i.e. through consonant assimilation)
*Background information on the character, for example where it was derived from.
*IPA
*Stroke order diagram
*Stroke order animation
*Links to any consonant assimilation rule that applies to this character
*Plenty of examples with audio
*Every possible way to write the character, some characters have many variations.

We can build the main example to copy to the rest at [[ㄱ]].

==Project underway==
This project is officially underway as I've purchased a great digital voice recorder. Before recording begins in few days we must carefully select the sounds we want recorded. Some general information:
*Record will be probaly start on 8/3/09, giving us some time to finalize exactly how we want to do this and which sounds we want to use.
*We don't introduce the 받침 until step 4, so the first four steps should not include a 받침.
*

===step 2===
*Do not introduce [[받침]] yet, so no examples should have 받침
*Add fake examples with real examples,

Examples to add later:
*ㄱ and ㅏ: 가 (go)
*ㄱ,ㄴ,ㅏ,ㅜ: 누, 나 (I) , 구 (nine)
*ㄱ,ㄴ,ㅁ,ㅏ,ㅜ,ㅗ: 모, 마, 무, 고, 노
*ㄱ,ㄴ,ㅁ,ㄷ,ㅏ,ㅜ,ㅗ,ㅣ: 디, 다, 두, 도, 기, 니, 미
*ㄱ,ㄴ,ㅁ,ㄷ,ㅇ,ㅏ,ㅜ,ㅗ,ㅣ: 아, 우, 오 (five), 이 (two)

Real examples:
*ㄱ, ㄴ, ㅁ, ㄷ, ㅇ
*ㅏ, ㅜ, ㅗ, ㅣ

*가구 (furniture)
*가나다 (Korean alphabet, i.e. abc)
*가다 (to go)
*가두다 (to lock in)
*고구마 (sweet potato)
*고기 (meat)
*고모 (father's sister)
*고아 (orphan)
*구두 (dress shoes)
*기도 (prayer)
*기모노(traditional cloth of Japan)
*나가다 (go out)
*나누다 (to divide)
*나무 (tree)
*나오다 (to come out)
*나이 (age)
*누가 (who)
*누구 (who)
*누나 (older sister)
*다가가다 (approach to someone)
*다가오다 (approach to me,to come up to)
*다니다 (to go to, work, school etc)
*도미노 (domino)
*도구 (instrument,tool)
*두다 (to put, place )
*마다 (every)
*마디 (joint, knot)
*모기 (mosquito)
*무기 (weapon)
*미아 (lost child)
*아가 (baby)
*아기 (baby)
*아마 (maybe,perhaps)
*아마도 (maybe,perhaps)
*아우 (man's younger brother-but not used currently)
*아이 (child)
*오다 (to come)
*오이 (cucumber)
*이구아나 (iguana)
*이기다 (to win)
*이마 (forehead)
*이모 (mother's sister)

===step 3===
*Do not introduce 받침 yet
*Add fake examples with real examples:
*In this lesson, you will learn:
*Consonants: ㅅ, ㅂ, ㅈ, ㄹ
*Vowels: ㅐ, ㅔ, ㅓ, ㅡ

*ㅅ,ㅐ: 새
*ㅅ,ㅂ,ㅐ,ㅔ: 베, 배, 베, 세
*ㅅ,ㅂ,ㅈ,ㅐ,ㅔ,ㅓ: 저, 재, 제, 서, 버, 저
*ㅅ,ㅂ,ㅈ,ㄹ,ㅐ,ㅔ,ㅓ,ㅡ: 르, 래, 레, 러, 스, 브, 즈

Real examples:
*ㄱ, ㄴ, ㅁ, ㄷ, ㅇ, ㅅ, ㅂ, ㅈ, ㄹ
*ㅏ, ㅜ, ㅗ, ㅣ, ㅐ, ㅔ, ㅓ, ㅡ

*가게 (store)
*가로 (the width)
*가로수 (trees lining a street)
*가르마 (a part in one´s hair)
*가사 (the words of a song)
*가수 (singer)
*가스 (gas)
*가루 (powder)
*가지 (eggplant,branch)
*개 (dog)
*개나리 (forsythia)
*개다 (to become clear-weather, to fold clothes)
*개미 (ant)
*거기 (there)
*거리 (street,distance)
*거미 (spider )
*거지 (beggar)
*게 (crab)
*게이 (gay)
*기내 (the inside of a plane)
*기다 (to crawl, to creep, to go on all fours)
*기다리다 (to wait)
*기대 (expectation)
*기사 (article,engineer)
*기자 (journalist)
*고래 (whale)
*구조 (rescue)
*나라 (country)
*나르다 (to carry)
*나이 (age)
*나사 (screw)
*나비 (butterfly)
*내리다 (to go descend)
*네 (yes)
*내 (my)
*네모 (square)
*너구리 (raccoon)
*노루 (roe deer)
*노래 (song)
*다리 (leg, bridge)
*다시 (again)
*대구 (Daegu, a Korean city)
*데우다 (to reheat, to heat up)
*도마 (chopping board)
*도시 (city)
*두부 (soybean curd,tobu)
*드디어 (finally)
*드라마 (drama)
*라디오 (radio)
*러시아 (Russia)
*마루 (wooden floor)
*마리 (counter used for count the number of animals)
*마르다 (to get dry)
*마시다 (to drink)
*머무르다 (to stay)
*매다 (to tie)
*매미 (cicada)
*매우 (very)
*머리 (head)
*메다 (to shoulder)
*메모 (memo)
*모두 (every)
*모래 (sand)
*모자 (cap,hat)
*무게 (weight)
*무대 (the stage)
*미래 (future)
*미로 (labyrinth)
*미소 (smile)
*바가지 (a rip off)
*바다 (sea)
*바보 (fool,idiot)
*바이러스 (virus)
*바지 (pants)
*배 (pear, ship,abdomen)
*배우 (actor/actress)
*배우다 (to learn)
*버리다 (to throw away)
*버스 (bus)
*베개 (pillow)
*베다 (to lay one´s head on, to cut)
*보내다 (to send)
*보다 (to see, to look, to watch)
*보라 (purple)
*보리 (barley)
*부모 (parents)
*부자 (rich person)
*브래지어 (bra)
*비 (rain)
*비자 (visa)
*사고 (accident)
*사다 (to buy)
*사자 (lion)
*서다 (to stand, to stop)
*서비스 (service)
*새 (bird)
*새다 (to leak out, to dawn)
*새우 (shrimp)
*세다 (to count, to strong)
*세로 (length,height)
*세모 (triangular)
*세수 (face washing)
*세제 (cleaning material)
*소 (cow)
*소개 (introduction)
*소시지 (sausage)
*수도 (capital city)
*수세미 (scrubber made from a sponge gourd)
*스트레스 (stress)
*시다 (to be sour)
*시소 (seesaw)
*아내 (wife)
*아래 (the bottom)
*아르바이트 (part time job)
*아주 (very)
*아주머니 (middle age lady)
*애기 (baby)
*어디 (where)
*어리다 (to be very young)
*오래 (for a long time)
*오리 (duck)
*우리 (we)
*우주 (universe)
*이사 (move-house)
*이자 (interest-money)
*자기 (honey,darling or oneself )
*자다 (to sleep)
*자주 (often)
*재다 (to measure)
*주다 (to give)
*주머니 (pocket)
*주소 (address)
*주스 (juice)
*조개 (shellfish)
*저자 (author )
*저주 (curs)
*제비 (swallow)
*제주도 (Jeju, an island in Korea)
*지다 (to lose)
*지구 (earth)

===step 4===
In this lesson, you will learn:
*Consonants: ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅍ, ㅎ
*Vowels: ㅑ, ㅕ, ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅒ, ㅖ

*Add fake examples with real examples,
Examples to add later:
*ㅋ, ㅛ: 쿄
*ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅛ, ㅠ: 튜, 툐, 큐
*ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅕ:
*ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅕ, ㅑ
*ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅍ, ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅕ, ㅑ:
*ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅍ, ㅎ, ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅕ, ㅑ, ㅖ:
*ㅒ:

Real examples using :
*ㄱ, ㄴ, ㅁ, ㄷ, ㅇ, ㅅ, ㅂ, ㅈ, ㄹ, ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅍ, ㅎ
*ㅏ, ㅜ, ㅗ, ㅣ, ㅐ, ㅔ, ㅓ, ㅡ, ㅑ, ㅕ, ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅒ, ㅖ

*가르치다 (to teach)
*가리키다 (to point at)
*가치 (value)
*고추 (hot pepper)
*고프다 (to be hungry)
*교수 (professor)
*구타 (beating)
*구토 (vomiting)
*구치소 (prison)
*구하다 (to rescue)
*구호 (a slogan)
*기계 (machine)
*기타 (guitar)
*기차 (train)
*기차표 (railroad ticket)
*기체 (gas, vapor)
*기초 (basis)
*기호 (symbol)
*나타나다 (to appear)
*노예 (slave)
*노크 (knock)
*노처녀 (maiden lady)
*니트 (knitwear)
*다치다 (to get hurt)
*대여 (a loan)
*도토리 (acorn)
*도표 (chart, diagram)
*디저트 (dessert)
*마치다 (to finish)
*매표소 (ticket office)
*며느리 (daughter-in-law)
*모피 (fur)
*묘지 (grave)
*미치다 (to be crazy)
*바코드 (bar code)
*바베큐 (barbecue)
*배터리 (battery)
*배추 (Chinese cabbage)
*벼 (rice plant)
*부여하다 (to bless someone)
*부케 (bouquet)
*보드카 (vodka)
*보호하다 (to protect)
*비키니 (bikini)
*비키다 (to move aside)
*사투리 (dialect)
*사치 (luxury)
*사표 (letter of resignation)
*서해 (the western sea)
*세차 (car washing)
*수표 (check)
*소파 (sofa)
*시차 (time difference)
*시츄 (shih tzu)
*시키다 (to order)
*셰퍼드 (German shepherd dog)
*아파트 (apartment)
*아프다 (to be painful)
*아토피 (atopy)
*야하다 (to be vulgar)
*얘기 (story)
*여보 (honey!(married couple))
*여자 (girl)
*예 (example)
*예고 (advance notice)
*오토바이 (motorcycle)
*오해 (misunderstanding)
*오후 (afternoon)
*요구르트 (yoghurt)
*요리 (cooking)
*우유 (milk)
*우표 (postage stamp)
*이유 (reason)
*이야기하다 (to talk)
*주차 (parking)
*조카 (nephew)
*지하 (underground)
*지폐 (paper money)
*지혜 (wisdom)
*차 (tea)
*차표 (bus ticket)
*차례 (order, turn)
*초대하다 (to invite)
*카드 (card)
*카카오 (cacao)
*카페 (cafe)
*캐나다 (Canada)
*커피 (coffee)
*코 (nose)
*쿠키 (cookies)
*크리스마스 (Chiristmas)
*키 (height)
*키스 (kiss)
*타이어 (tire)
*토미토 (tomato)
*토하다 (to throw up)
*포도 (grape)
*피부 (skin)
*하다 (to do)
*허리 (waist)
*호주 (Australia)
*휴가 (holiday, rest day )
*휴지 (toilet paper)
*얘
*걔
*쟤

-need more examples for ㅒ

===step 5===
Need 받침 sounds that aren't affected by consonant assimilation rules so we don't confuse the beginners. Link to the main [[받침]]
article.



*ㅇ makes an ng sound as 받침:
**강, 정, 방, 중, 응,
**강낭콩, 강아지, 경마, 공, 농구공, 고양이, 조깅, 당구, 당구공, 당나귀, 사랑, 호랑이, 프랑스, 망고, 희망, 멍, 구멍, 몽유병, 방, 방송, 생방송, 가방, 벙어리, 붕어, 지붕, 빙하, 다이빙, 더빙, 상어, 성경, 송아지, 싱숭생숭하다, 생수, 승리, 승마, 양, 양파, 태양, 영어, 영화, 수영, 영웅, 용서, 용기, 잉크, 장마, 장미, 수영장, 화장, 정장, 종, 종이, 중고, 증거, 창고, 청바지, 총, 콩, 사탕, 휴지통, 두통, 태풍, 소풍, 어항, 향기, 향수, 고향, 홍콩, 홍당무
*ㄴ,ㅁ remain the same sound as a 받침.
**다음, 감자, 엄마, 김,
**이번, 만나다, 반, 일본, 돈, 문, 신, 원, 년
**
*ㄹ is a /l/ sound as 받침
**말, 멀다, 물, 밀다, 제일, 경찰, 갈비,
**굴, 글자, 길, 길이, 날개, 설날, 달, 달러, 배달, 돌, 돌고래, 주말, 멀미, 물고기, 괴물, 밀가루, 발, 발레, 벌, 벌레, 라이벌, 볼, 불, 불고기, 불어, 이불, 빌리다, 살, 소설, 술, 수술, 미술, 마술, 슬리퍼, 슬프다, 실, 알, 얼굴, 열, 울다, 거울, 겨울, 가을, 일, 일기, 과일, 절, 줄, 거미줄, 고무줄, 질투, 철, 지하철, 출발, 칠, 칠레, 칼, 뮤지컬, 콜라, 털, 팔, 풀, 할머니, 할아버지, 헐리우드
*Things like 맛, 맏, 맡, 맜, 맞, 맟, 맣 showing they all have the same sounds
*압, 앞 are the same
**십, 갑자기,
**보고싶다,
*억, 엌, 얶 are the same
**먹다, 기억,
**부엌, (more examples)

*Introduce double 받침?
**없어
**읽어
**

===step 6===
*Consonants: ㄲ,ㄸ,ㅆ,ㅃ,ㅉ
*Vowels: ㅘ,ㅙ,ㅚ,ㅝ,ㅞ,ㅟ,ㅢ

*Add fake examples with real examples,
*Examples to add later:
**ㅅ,ㅐ: 새
**ㅅ,ㅂ,ㅐ,ㅔ: 베, 배, 베, 세
**ㅅ,ㅂ,ㅈ,ㅐ,ㅔ,ㅓ: 저, 재, 제, 서(west), 버, 저
**ㅅ,ㅂ,ㅈ,ㄹ,ㅐ,ㅔ,ㅓㅡ: 르, 래, 레, 러, 스, 브, 즈

*가깝다 - to be close(location)
*가위 - scissors
*과일 - fruit
*과자 - snack
*괜찮다 (cons assim)
*궤도 - orbit
*기쁘다 to be glad
*깍두기 - cubed Korean radish
*뜨겁다 - to be hot
*먹었어요 - I ate
*비싸다 - to be expensive
*빠르다 - to be quick
*싸구려 - cheap goods
*싸다 - to be cheap
*싸우다 - to fight
*쓰다 - to use, to write
*어렵다 - to be difficult
*예쁘다 - to be pretty
*왜 - why
*외국 - foreign country
*외숙모 - Aunt (Mom's brother's wife)
*원 - The won, Korean currency
*웬일 - what reason
*위험하다 - to be dangerous
*의료 보험 - medical insurance
*의사 - doctor
*의자 - chair
*치과 - denist office
*취마 - skirt
*취하다 - to get drunk
*했어요 - I did it
*회사 - company
*원숭이 - monkey
*법원 - court of law

== Flash is discontinued ==

I'm not sure if anyone will see this, but flash will no longer supported on Chrome after this year. Best move to HTML5.

Talk:Internet and text messaging

2018-06-14T03:26:22Z

Okeofork: /* Is 너무 -> 넘 and 처음 -> 첨 is related? */ new section

==On Emoticons==
*OTL - Shape of a person crying on the floor
From my experience with a good Korean friend and many hours of online communication, I would think it better to show this as:
*OTL - Shape of a person fallen on the floor in representation of a failure or mistake
:i.e., "I forgot my homework OTL"
--[[User:Galinaros|Galinaros]] 21:56, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

----

Jay -- what is 멍미?? --[[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 06:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

:'멍미?'는 '머임?' 이라는 단어의 오타예요.

:'머임'이라고 컴퓨터키보드로 치려면 ㅁ → ㅓ → ㅇ → ㅣ → ㅁ 이라고 입력해야하는데,

:오타때문에 ㅁ → ㅓ → ㅇ → ㅁ → ㅣ 라고 입력돼서 '멍미'가 나온것입니다.

:자주 오타가 생기는 단어이기 때문에, '멍미'라고 그냥 쓰는 사람이 많아져서, 이제는 그냥 재밌게 '멍미'라고 쓰는것 같습니다. <br>

:뭐지? → 뭐임? → 머임?

:머임? = 멍미? 의 뜻은 다양한데,

:what?? 이라는 뜻으로도 쓸 수가 있고,

:누군가가 어이없는 말을 했을 때, "멍미?" 라고 쓸 수 있습니다.

:또, 어이없는 장면을 보았을때나 어이없는 소식을 들었을때, "멍미?" 라고 합니다.

:주로 10대나 젊은 사람들이 많이 사용합니다.

:Jay

==Nateon==
Still deciding where to put nateon warning messages. Here's one
*" 지인을 사칭하거나 급박한 상황을 빙자한 금전 피해사례가 빈번하게 발생되고 있으니, 금전 요구시 전화로 반드시 대화 상대를 확인하십시오.신고하기 "
*"상대방의 현재 접속지는 국외 등 피싱위험지역입니다. 지인을 사칭하거나 급박한 상황을 빙자한 금전 피해사례가 빈번하게 발생되고 있으니, 금전 요구시 전화로 반드시 대화 상대를 확인하십시오."
*파일 전송의 일부 또는 전체가 사용자의 요청으로 취소(중단)되었거나, 파일을 전송(수신)할 수 없는 상태입니다.

==Basic phrases==
I'm not sure whether to put it in this section, but a place to learn how to say basic phrases like "are you there?" and "be right back."

what does 풉 mean? --[[User:DigitalSoju|DigitalSoju]] 08:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

== Is 너무 -> 넘 and 처음 -> 첨 is related? ==

The rule described here says that ㅁ can replace 음 in some words ending in 음. Could this be adjusted to allow for words like 너무 which can be shortened to 넘?

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