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DigitalSoju at 23:34, 18 February 2010

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	::@Both/Either of you		::@Both/Either of you
	::Would you mind sharing contact information? If you'd rather it not be "public," send a message over to my e-mail at ~~galinaros7@gmail.com~~ . I have AIM, WLM, Astra, and Facebook. I would simply like to make communicating my ideas a little easier. You're free to reject. :D		::Would you mind sharing contact information? If you'd rather it not be "public," send a message over to my e-mail at **** . I have AIM, WLM, Astra, and Facebook. I would simply like to make communicating my ideas a little easier. You're free to reject. :D
	:Thanks, --[[User:Galinaros\|Galinaros]] 21:38, 18 February 2010 (UTC)		:Thanks, --[[User:Galinaros\|Galinaros]] 21:38, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
	:::I'll send you an email and delete your email on this page so it won't get picked up my a spam bot or by a search engine. --[[User:DigitalSoju\|DigitalSoju]] 23:24, 18 February 2010 (UTC)		:::I'll send you an email and delete your email on this page so it won't get picked up my a spam bot or by a search engine. --[[User:DigitalSoju\|DigitalSoju]] 23:24, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

DigitalSoju at 23:24, 18 February 2010

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	::Would you mind sharing contact information? If you'd rather it not be "public," send a message over to my e-mail at galinaros7@gmail.com . I have AIM, WLM, Astra, and Facebook. I would simply like to make communicating my ideas a little easier. You're free to reject. :D		::Would you mind sharing contact information? If you'd rather it not be "public," send a message over to my e-mail at galinaros7@gmail.com . I have AIM, WLM, Astra, and Facebook. I would simply like to make communicating my ideas a little easier. You're free to reject. :D
	:Thanks, --[[User:Galinaros\|Galinaros]] 21:38, 18 February 2010 (UTC)		:Thanks, --[[User:Galinaros\|Galinaros]] 21:38, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
			:::I'll send you an email and delete your email on this page so it won't get picked up my a spam bot or by a search engine. --[[User:DigitalSoju\|DigitalSoju]] 23:24, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
	== hello ==		== hello ==

Galinaros: /* The Effectiveness of this Collaboration of Work */

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	::Hey there :) Thanks for the reply.		::Hey there :) Thanks for the reply.
	::My primary focus is on a structured approach to actually learning the language. As I said earlier, perhaps an hierarchy of levels in which a certain assumption of knowledge is utilized based on the tier of the level in question. (That is, a sort of model as following, each building on each other in a progressive manner: complete beginner, beginner, intermediate, advanced, professional.) I realize that for which I am asking is a little against the idea of Wiki, but given the idea behind the project, I think it would be most appropriate and useful.		::My primary focus is on a structured approach to actually learning the language. As I said earlier, perhaps an hierarchy of levels in which a certain assumption of knowledge is utilized based on the tier of the level in question. (That is, a sort of model as following, each building on each other in a progressive manner: complete beginner, beginner, intermediate, advanced, professional.) I realize that for which I am asking is a little against the idea of Wiki, but given the idea behind the project, I think it would be most appropriate and useful.
	::Currently, all of the topics--with the exception of the Hangul section--presented seem to assume that the reader knows absolutely everything else mentioned. Here the idea of a Wiki is very useful with the great many nets of linked pages to provide these explanation, though this has yet to come into full use given the youth of the project.		::Currently, all of the topics--with the exception of the Hangul section--presented seem to assume that the reader knows absolutely everything else mentioned. Here the idea of a Wiki is very useful with the great many nets of linked pages to provide these explanation, though this has yet to come into full use given the youth of the project. While filling these up is obviously high in priority, I also ask that attention be given to the ease of understanding of such materials. Assuming never goes over well. ;)
	::Anyway, my primary concern is my insufficient knowledge to be a helpful contributor. I mean, I would love to begin typing explanations to a great many things even if that is with only my current, diminutive knowledge. At the same time though, I am afraid to offer any such pieces in fear of them being utter wastes of time that end as only wrong and perhaps stipulating (I know, I know, people can edit that, but I find it hard to sufficiently structure something when you doubt its factual purity).		::Anyway, my primary concern is my insufficient knowledge to be a helpful contributor. I mean, I would love to begin typing explanations to a great many things even if that is with only my current, diminutive knowledge. At the same time though, I am afraid to offer any such pieces in fear of them being utter wastes of time that end as only wrong and perhaps stipulating (I know, I know, people can edit that, but I find it hard to sufficiently structure something when you doubt its factual purity).

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	:Anyway i'd love to hear the specifics of your problems, perhaps many others feel the same way --[[User:DigitalSoju\|DigitalSoju]] 08:47, 18 February 2010 (UTC)		:Anyway i'd love to hear the specifics of your problems, perhaps many others feel the same way --[[User:DigitalSoju\|DigitalSoju]] 08:47, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

			::@[[User:Mstrum\|Mstrum]]
			::Hey there :) Thanks for the reply.
			::My primary focus is on a structured approach to actually learning the language. As I said earlier, perhaps an hierarchy of levels in which a certain assumption of knowledge is utilized based on the tier of the level in question. (That is, a sort of model as following, each building on each other in a progressive manner: complete beginner, beginner, intermediate, advanced, professional.) I realize that for which I am asking is a little against the idea of Wiki, but given the idea behind the project, I think it would be most appropriate and useful.
			::Currently, all of the topics--with the exception of the Hangul section--presented seem to assume that the reader knows absolutely everything else mentioned. Here the idea of a Wiki is very useful with the great many nets of linked pages to provide these explanation, though this has yet to come into full use given the youth of the project.
			::Anyway, my primary concern is my insufficient knowledge to be a helpful contributor. I mean, I would love to begin typing explanations to a great many things even if that is with only my current, diminutive knowledge. At the same time though, I am afraid to offer any such pieces in fear of them being utter wastes of time that end as only wrong and perhaps stipulating (I know, I know, people can edit that, but I find it hard to sufficiently structure something when you doubt its factual purity).

			::@[[User:DigitalSoju\|Chris]]
			::ohaithar!
			::You're not so much as misunderstanding me as assuming something I didn't mention. Indeed, I'm not the best when it comes to Wikis, but I did spend a few months arranging a small database onto one a few years ago. I'm sure I can come back to it quickly and, seeing that it's just a manner of organization, that shouldn't be too difficult. But that's not really my problem.
			::Over this weekend I'll see about creating a list of specific things which I think are either unnecessary or unfriendly. I got slammed with homework tonight so I won't be able to do much just yet.
			::And a little something to note: I did not intend to criticize everything you have up here already. I am just asking for a more structured approach to concepts and the introduction of them. Think of it as a textbook except online, being updated constantly, and filled with as much information as possible without any regard to page limitations. Something like that and what I mentioned above to Matt are for what I am looking.

			::@Both/Either of you
			::Would you mind sharing contact information? If you'd rather it not be "public," send a message over to my e-mail at galinaros7@gmail.com . I have AIM, WLM, Astra, and Facebook. I would simply like to make communicating my ideas a little easier. You're free to reject. :D
			:Thanks, --[[User:Galinaros\|Galinaros]] 21:38, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

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DigitalSoju at 08:47, 18 February 2010

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	--[[User:Mstrum\|Mstrum]] 07:42, 18 February 2010 (UTC)		--[[User:Mstrum\|Mstrum]] 07:42, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

			:Hi Galinaros, thanks for your comments. Could you be more specific on which sections need more friendly explanations? Also sounds like you need some tutorials on how to edit and basically where to get started right? Or am I misunderstanding? The front page basically tells people how they can jump in and contribute, as well as the [[contributing]] page. If you could be more specific with examples I could probably help you more.

			:One thing to keep in mind though is this wiki is still in it's growing stage, while Matt and Jay shin has put in tremendous amounts of time into this wiki, they've been busy lately so I've been handling this on my own with some help from very few contributors. The problem is then editing as many pages as possible to meet satisfactory needs, which is impossible on my own. When the project gets bigger, more people will edit and each page will get better and more accurate with time. A lot of the pages are put in hopes someone else will step in and contribute and add to the work. Anytime I have an idea, I simply create the page so the idea isn't forgotten, then put whatever information I have at that time.

			:Anyway i'd love to hear the specifics of your problems, perhaps many others feel the same way --[[User:DigitalSoju\|DigitalSoju]] 08:47, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
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Mstrum: /* The Effectiveness of this Collaboration of Work */

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			Thanks for the thoughtful comments Galinaros!

			*Yes, organization is always something which is lacking. Especially for beginners. We haven't really catered to beginners yet I would say.
			*Totally agree
			*As a wiki, we are always looking for help. Since we are still relatively young we are not only looking for contect contributers but people like you who have ideas about how we can organize and format the wiki so it's useful to people (which is the main goal)

			Definitely say hi to [[User:DigitalSoju\|Chris]]. who's been working more lately on the project. He's very open to changing the organization and if you've got some good ideas we'll definitely implement them!

			--[[User:Mstrum\|Mstrum]] 07:42, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

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Galinaros: /* The Effectiveness of this Collaboration of Work */

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	I, notably, am attempting at this same goal of availability of understandable information. In almost every way I agree with your vision of such a presence of materials found online, free, and accessible to the everyday learner. First, though, this requires most adequate analyses of the materials you wish to present here. Simple facts and concise explanations will not satisfy the most interested of reasonable learners. Perhaps, then, the benevolent presence of both concision and lengthened pieces to every article so found here is for what I wish. If you wish examples to that of which I speak, I will gladly provide them.		I, notably, am attempting at this same goal of availability of understandable information. In almost every way I agree with your vision of such a presence of materials found online, free, and accessible to the everyday learner. First, though, this requires most adequate analyses of the materials you wish to present here. Simple facts and concise explanations will not satisfy the most interested of reasonable learners. Perhaps, then, the benevolent presence of both concision and lengthened pieces to every article so found here is for what I wish. If you wish examples to that of which I speak, I will gladly provide them.

	Over the past month I have produced a considerable sum of inferential examinations of Hangul and basic grammar rules, few of which were simply learned through a book. Insensible as that may seem, I find this to be the most effective way to the full understanding of Korean (as well as any language). It seems to me that reinventing the wheel is, at times, a most necessary task--especially when the wheels of ~~other~~'s fashion are octagonal abominations with little use or movement. ^^		Over the past month I have produced a considerable sum of inferential examinations of Hangul and basic grammar rules, few of which were simply learned through a book. Insensible as that may seem, I find this to be the most effective way to the full understanding of Korean (as well as any language). It seems to me that reinventing the wheel is, at times, a most necessary task--especially when the wheels of others' fashion are octagonal abominations with little use or movement. ^^

	Obviously, then, the many materials already available throughout textbooks and online websites lack the explanations I wish to find. As aforementioned, I hope to create at least some portion of valuable articles found as appreciable throughout my progress in learning. If you so wish, all materials I complete to a satisfactory level of my own expectations may be sent to you for revision, criticism, and to possibly serve as addends to the current list of materials here.		Obviously, then, the many materials already available throughout textbooks and online websites lack the explanations I wish to find. As aforementioned, I hope to create at least some portion of valuable articles found as appreciable throughout my progress in learning. If you so wish, all materials I complete to a satisfactory level of my own expectations may be sent to you for revision, criticism, and to possibly serve as addends to the current list of materials here.

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	With thanks and regards,		With thanks and regards,

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