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<div>I'm using this talk page to propose a format for the Hangeul pages. This section should be completed in the very near future as it's frequently visited. -[[User:WikiSysop|WikiSysop]] 16:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Individual pages==<br />
Each Hangeul letter(자모) should have a detailed page:<br />
*Basic sound<br />
*Sound in the initial position (with audio)<br />
*Sound in the middle position (with audio)<br />
*Sound in the final 받침 position (with audio)<br />
*Other sounds this letter is capable of making (i.e. through consonant assimilation)<br />
*Background information on the character, for example where it was derived from.<br />
*IPA<br />
*Stroke order diagram<br />
*Stroke order animation<br />
*Links to any consonant assimilation rule that applies to this character<br />
*Plenty of examples with audio<br />
*Every possible way to write the character, some characters have many variations.<br />
<br />
We can build the main example to copy to the rest at [[ㄱ]].<br />
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==Project underway==<br />
This project is officially underway as I've purchased a great digital voice recorder. Before recording begins in few days we must carefully select the sounds we want recorded. Some general information:<br />
*Record will be probaly start on 8/3/09, giving us some time to finalize exactly how we want to do this and which sounds we want to use.<br />
*We don't introduce the 받침 until step 4, so the first four steps should not include a 받침.<br />
*<br />
<br />
===step 2===<br />
*Do not introduce [[받침]] yet, so no examples should have 받침<br />
*Add fake examples with real examples, <br />
<br />
Examples to add later:<br />
*ㄱ and ㅏ: 가 (go)<br />
*ㄱ,ㄴ,ㅏ,ㅜ: 누, 나 (I) , 구 (nine)<br />
*ㄱ,ㄴ,ㅁ,ㅏ,ㅜ,ㅗ: 모, 마, 무, 고, 노<br />
*ㄱ,ㄴ,ㅁ,ㄷ,ㅏ,ㅜ,ㅗ,ㅣ: 디, 다, 두, 도, 기, 니, 미<br />
*ㄱ,ㄴ,ㅁ,ㄷ,ㅇ,ㅏ,ㅜ,ㅗ,ㅣ: 아, 우, 오 (five), 이 (two)<br />
<br />
<br />
Real examples:<br />
*ㄱ, ㄴ, ㅁ, ㄷ, ㅇ<br />
*ㅏ, ㅜ, ㅗ, ㅣ<br />
<br />
*가구 (furniture)<br />
*가나다 (Korean alphabet, i.e. abc) <br />
*가다 (to go) <br />
*가두다 (to lock in)<br />
*고구마 (sweet potato) <br />
*고기 (meat) <br />
*고모 (father's sister)<br />
*고아 (orphan)<br />
*구두 (dress shoes) <br />
*기도 (prayer)<br />
*기모노(traditional cloth of Japan)<br />
*나가다 (go out) <br />
*나누다 (to divide)<br />
*나무 (tree)<br />
*나오다 (to come out) <br />
*나이 (age) <br />
*누가 (who) <br />
*누구 (who) <br />
*누나 (older sister) <br />
*다가가다 (approach to someone)<br />
*다가오다 (approach to me,to come up to)<br />
*다니다 (to go to, work, school etc) <br />
*도미노 (domino) <br />
*도구 (instrument,tool)<br />
*두다 (to put, place )<br />
*마다 (every) <br />
*마디 (joint, knot)<br />
*모기 (mosquito)<br />
*무기 (weapon)<br />
*미아 (lost child) <br />
*아가 (baby)<br />
*아기 (baby)<br />
*아마 (maybe,perhaps)<br />
*아마도 (maybe,perhaps)<br />
*아우 (man's younger brother-but not used currently) <br />
*아이 (child) <br />
*오다 (to come)<br />
*오이 (cucumber)<br />
*이구아나 (iguana) <br />
*이기다 (to win)<br />
*이마 (forehead)<br />
*이모 (mother's sister)<br />
<br />
===step 3===<br />
*Do not introduce 받침 yet<br />
*Add fake examples with real examples:<br />
*In this lesson, you will learn:<br />
*Consonants: ㅅ, ㅂ, ㅈ, ㄹ<br />
*Vowels: ㅐ, ㅔ, ㅓ, ㅡ<br />
<br />
*ㅅ,ㅐ: 새<br />
*ㅅ,ㅂ,ㅐ,ㅔ: 베, 배, 베, 세<br />
*ㅅ,ㅂ,ㅈ,ㅐ,ㅔ,ㅓ: 저, 재, 제, 서, 버, 저<br />
*ㅅ,ㅂ,ㅈ,ㄹ,ㅐ,ㅔ,ㅓ,ㅡ: 르, 래, 레, 러, 스, 브, 즈<br />
<br />
Real examples:<br />
*ㄱ, ㄴ, ㅁ, ㄷ, ㅇ, ㅅ, ㅂ, ㅈ, ㄹ<br />
*ㅏ, ㅜ, ㅗ, ㅣ, ㅐ, ㅔ, ㅓ, ㅡ<br />
<br />
*가게 (store)<br />
*가로 (the width)<br />
*가로수 (trees lining a street)<br />
*가르마 (a part in one´s hair)<br />
*가사 (the words of a song)<br />
*가수 (singer)<br />
*가스 (gas)<br />
*가루 (powder)<br />
*가지 (eggplant,branch)<br />
*개 (dog)<br />
*개나리 (forsythia)<br />
*개다 (to become clear-weather, to fold clothes) <br />
*개미 (ant)<br />
*거기 (there)<br />
*거리 (street,distance)<br />
*거미 (spider )<br />
*거지 (beggar)<br />
*게 (crab)<br />
*게이 (gay)<br />
*기내 (the inside of a plane)<br />
*기다 (to crawl, to creep, to go on all fours)<br />
*기다리다 (to wait)<br />
*기대 (expectation)<br />
*기사 (article,engineer)<br />
*기자 (journalist)<br />
*고래 (whale)<br />
*구조 (rescue)<br />
*나라 (country)<br />
*나르다 (to carry)<br />
*나이 (age)<br />
*나사 (screw)<br />
*나비 (butterfly)<br />
*내리다 (to go descend)<br />
*네 (yes)<br />
*내 (my)<br />
*네모 (square)<br />
*너구리 (raccoon) <br />
*노루 (roe deer)<br />
*노래 (song)<br />
*다리 (leg, bridge)<br />
*다시 (again)<br />
*대구 (Daegu, a Korean city)<br />
*데우다 (to reheat, to heat up)<br />
*도마 (chopping board)<br />
*도시 (city)<br />
*두부 (soybean curd,tobu)<br />
*드디어 (finally)<br />
*드라마 (drama)<br />
*라디오 (radio)<br />
*러시아 (Russia)<br />
*마루 (wooden floor)<br />
*마리 (counter used for count the number of animals)<br />
*마르다 (to get dry)<br />
*마시다 (to drink)<br />
*머무르다 (to stay)<br />
*매다 (to tie)<br />
*매미 (cicada)<br />
*매우 (very)<br />
*머리 (head)<br />
*메다 (to shoulder)<br />
*메모 (memo)<br />
*모두 (every)<br />
*모래 (sand)<br />
*모자 (cap,hat)<br />
*무게 (weight)<br />
*무대 (the stage)<br />
*미래 (future)<br />
*미로 (labyrinth)<br />
*미소 (smile)<br />
*바가지 (a rip off)<br />
*바다 (sea)<br />
*바보 (fool,idiot)<br />
*바이러스 (virus)<br />
*바지 (pants)<br />
*배 (pear, ship,abdomen)<br />
*배우 (actor/actress)<br />
*배우다 (to learn)<br />
*버리다 (to throw away)<br />
*버스 (bus)<br />
*베개 (pillow)<br />
*베다 (to lay one´s head on, to cut) <br />
*보내다 (to send)<br />
*보다 (to see, to look, to watch)<br />
*보라 (purple)<br />
*보리 (barley)<br />
*부모 (parents)<br />
*부자 (rich person)<br />
*브래지어 (bra)<br />
*비 (rain)<br />
*비자 (visa)<br />
*사고 (accident)<br />
*사다 (to buy)<br />
*사자 (lion)<br />
*서다 (to stand, to stop)<br />
*서비스 (service)<br />
*새 (bird)<br />
*새다 (to leak out, to dawn)<br />
*새우 (shrimp)<br />
*세다 (to count, to strong)<br />
*세로 (length,height)<br />
*세모 (triangular)<br />
*세수 (face washing)<br />
*세제 (cleaning material)<br />
*소 (cow)<br />
*소개 (introduction)<br />
*소시지 (sausage)<br />
*수도 (capital city)<br />
*수세미 (scrubber made from a sponge gourd)<br />
*스트레스 (stress)<br />
*시다 (to be sour)<br />
*시소 (seesaw)<br />
*아내 (wife)<br />
*아래 (the bottom)<br />
*아르바이트 (part time job)<br />
*아주 (very)<br />
*아주머니 (middle age lady)<br />
*애기 (baby)<br />
*어디 (where)<br />
*어리다 (to be very young)<br />
*오래 (for a long time)<br />
*오리 (duck)<br />
*우리 (we)<br />
*우주 (universe)<br />
*이사 (move-house)<br />
*이자 (interest-money)<br />
*자기 (honey,darling or oneself )<br />
*자다 (to sleep)<br />
*자주 (often)<br />
*재다 (to measure)<br />
*주다 (to give)<br />
*주머니 (pocket)<br />
*주소 (address)<br />
*주스 (juice)<br />
*조개 (shellfish)<br />
*저자 (author )<br />
*저주 (curs)<br />
*제비 (swallow)<br />
*제주도 (Jeju, an island in Korea)<br />
*지다 (to lose)<br />
*지구 (earth)<br />
<br />
===step 4===<br />
In this lesson, you will learn:<br />
*Consonants: ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅍ, ㅎ <br />
*Vowels: ㅑ, ㅕ, ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅒ, ㅖ<br />
<br />
*Add fake examples with real examples, <br />
Examples to add later:<br />
*ㅋ, ㅛ: 쿄<br />
*ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅛ, ㅠ: 튜, 툐, 큐<br />
*ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅕ:<br />
*ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅕ, ㅑ<br />
*ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅍ, ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅕ, ㅑ:<br />
*ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅍ, ㅎ, ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅕ, ㅑ, ㅖ:<br />
*ㅒ: <br />
<br />
Real examples using :<br />
*ㄱ, ㄴ, ㅁ, ㄷ, ㅇ, ㅅ, ㅂ, ㅈ, ㄹ, ㅋ, ㅌ, ㅊ, ㅍ, ㅎ<br />
*ㅏ, ㅜ, ㅗ, ㅣ, ㅐ, ㅔ, ㅓ, ㅡ, ㅑ, ㅕ, ㅛ, ㅠ, ㅒ, ㅖ<br />
<br />
<br />
*가르치다 (to teach)<br />
*가리키다 (to point at)<br />
*가치 (value)<br />
*고추 (hot pepper)<br />
*고프다 (to be hungry)<br />
*교수 (professor)<br />
*구타 (beating)<br />
*구토 (vomiting)<br />
*구치소 (prison)<br />
*구하다 (to rescue)<br />
*구호 (a slogan)<br />
*기계 (machine)<br />
*기타 (guitar)<br />
*기차 (train)<br />
*기차표 (railroad ticket)<br />
*기체 (gas, vapor)<br />
*기초 (basis)<br />
*기호 (symbol)<br />
*나타나다 (to appear)<br />
*노예 (slave)<br />
*노크 (knock)<br />
*노처녀 (maiden lady)<br />
*니트 (knitwear)<br />
*다치다 (to get hurt)<br />
*대여 (a loan)<br />
*도토리 (acorn)<br />
*도표 (chart, diagram)<br />
*디저트 (dessert)<br />
*마치다 (to finish)<br />
*매표소 (ticket office)<br />
*며느리 (daughter-in-law)<br />
*모피 (fur)<br />
*묘지 (grave)<br />
*미치다 (to be crazy)<br />
*바코드 (bar code)<br />
*바베큐 (barbecue)<br />
*배터리 (battery)<br />
*배추 (Chinese cabbage)<br />
*벼 (rice plant)<br />
*부여하다 (to bless someone)<br />
*부케 (bouquet)<br />
*보드카 (vodka)<br />
*보호하다 (to protect)<br />
*비키니 (bikini)<br />
*비키다 (to move aside)<br />
*사투리 (dialect)<br />
*사치 (luxury)<br />
*사표 (letter of resignation)<br />
*서해 (the western sea)<br />
*세차 (car washing)<br />
*수표 (check)<br />
*소파 (sofa)<br />
*시차 (time difference)<br />
*시츄 (shih tzu)<br />
*시키다 (to order)<br />
*셰퍼드 (German shepherd dog)<br />
*아파트 (apartment)<br />
*아프다 (to be painful)<br />
*아토피 (atopy)<br />
*야하다 (to be vulgar)<br />
*얘기 (story)<br />
*여보 (honey!(married couple))<br />
*여자 (girl)<br />
*예 (example)<br />
*예고 (advance notice)<br />
*오토바이 (motorcycle)<br />
*오해 (misunderstanding)<br />
*오후 (afternoon)<br />
*요구르트 (yoghurt)<br />
*요리 (cooking)<br />
*우유 (milk)<br />
*우표 (postage stamp)<br />
*이유 (reason)<br />
*이야기하다 (to talk)<br />
*주차 (parking)<br />
*조카 (nephew)<br />
*지하 (underground)<br />
*지폐 (paper money)<br />
*지혜 (wisdom)<br />
*차 (tea)<br />
*차표 (bus ticket)<br />
*차례 (order, turn)<br />
*초대하다 (to invite) <br />
*카드 (card)<br />
*카카오 (cacao)<br />
*카페 (cafe)<br />
*캐나다 (Canada)<br />
*커피 (coffee)<br />
*코 (nose)<br />
*쿠키 (cookies)<br />
*크리스마스 (Chiristmas)<br />
*키 (height)<br />
*키스 (kiss)<br />
*타이어 (tire)<br />
*토미토 (tomato)<br />
*토하다 (to throw up)<br />
*포도 (grape)<br />
*피부 (skin)<br />
*하다 (to do)<br />
*허리 (waist)<br />
*호주 (Australia)<br />
*휴가 (holiday, rest day )<br />
*휴지 (toilet paper)<br />
*얘<br />
*걔<br />
*쟤<br />
<br />
-need more examples for ㅒ<br />
<br />
===step 5===<br />
Need 받침 sounds that aren't affected by consonant assimilation rules so we don't confuse the beginners. Link to the main [[받침]]<br />
article.<br />
<br />
<!--Add many examples, and the best ones will be picked later--><br />
<br />
*ㅇ makes an ng sound as 받침:<br />
**강, 정, 방, 중, 응,<br />
**강낭콩, 강아지, 경마, 공, 농구공, 고양이, 조깅, 당구, 당구공, 당나귀, 사랑, 호랑이, 프랑스, 망고, 희망, 멍, 구멍, 몽유병, 방, 방송, 생방송, 가방, 벙어리, 붕어, 지붕, 빙하, 다이빙, 더빙, 상어, 성경, 송아지, 싱숭생숭하다, 생수, 승리, 승마, 양, 양파, 태양, 영어, 영화, 수영, 영웅, 용서, 용기, 잉크, 장마, 장미, 수영장, 화장, 정장, 종, 종이, 중고, 증거, 창고, 청바지, 총, 콩, 사탕, 휴지통, 두통, 태풍, 소풍, 어항, 향기, 향수, 고향, 홍콩, 홍당무 <br />
*ㄴ,ㅁ remain the same sound as a 받침.<br />
**다음, 감자, 엄마, 김,<br />
**이번, 만나다, 반, 일본, 돈, 문, 신, 원, 년<br />
**<br />
*ㄹ is a /l/ sound as 받침<br />
**말, 멀다, 물, 밀다, 제일, 경찰, 갈비,<br />
**굴, 글자, 길, 길이, 날개, 설날, 달, 달러, 배달, 돌, 돌고래, 주말, 멀미, 물고기, 괴물, 밀가루, 발, 발레, 벌, 벌레, 라이벌, 볼, 불, 불고기, 불어, 이불, 빌리다, 살, 소설, 술, 수술, 미술, 마술, 슬리퍼, 슬프다, 실, 알, 얼굴, 열, 울다, 거울, 겨울, 가을, 일, 일기, 과일, 절, 줄, 거미줄, 고무줄, 질투, 철, 지하철, 출발, 칠, 칠레, 칼, 뮤지컬, 콜라, 털, 팔, 풀, 할머니, 할아버지, 헐리우드 <br />
*Things like 맛, 맏, 맡, 맜, 맞, 맟, 맣 showing they all have the same sounds<br />
*압, 앞 are the same<br />
**십, 갑자기,<br />
**보고싶다, <br />
*억, 엌, 얶 are the same<br />
**먹다, 기억, <br />
**부엌, (more examples)<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
*Introduce double 받침?<br />
**없어<br />
**읽어<br />
**<br />
<br />
===step 6===<br />
*Consonants: ㄲ,ㄸ,ㅆ,ㅃ,ㅉ<br />
*Vowels: ㅘ,ㅙ,ㅚ,ㅝ,ㅞ,ㅟ,ㅢ <br />
<br />
*Add fake examples with real examples, <br />
*Examples to add later:<br />
**ㅅ,ㅐ: 새<br />
**ㅅ,ㅂ,ㅐ,ㅔ: 베, 배, 베, 세<br />
**ㅅ,ㅂ,ㅈ,ㅐ,ㅔ,ㅓ: 저, 재, 제, 서(west), 버, 저<br />
**ㅅ,ㅂ,ㅈ,ㄹ,ㅐ,ㅔ,ㅓㅡ: 르, 래, 레, 러, 스, 브, 즈<br />
<br />
<br />
*가깝다 - to be close(location)<br />
*가위 - scissors <br />
*과일 - fruit<br />
*과자 - snack<br />
*괜찮다 (cons assim)<br />
*궤도 - orbit<br />
*기쁘다 to be glad<br />
*깍두기 - cubed Korean radish<br />
*뜨겁다 - to be hot<br />
*먹었어요 - I ate<br />
*비싸다 - to be expensive<br />
*빠르다 - to be quick<br />
*싸구려 - cheap goods<br />
*싸다 - to be cheap<br />
*싸우다 - to fight<br />
*쓰다 - to use, to write<br />
*어렵다 - to be difficult<br />
*예쁘다 - to be pretty<br />
*왜 - why<br />
*외국 - foreign country <br />
*외숙모 - Aunt (Mom's brother's wife)<br />
*원 - The won, Korean currency<br />
*웬일 - what reason<br />
*위험하다 - to be dangerous<br />
*의료 보험 - medical insurance<br />
*의사 - doctor<br />
*의자 - chair<br />
*치과 - denist office<br />
*취마 - skirt<br />
*취하다 - to get drunk<br />
*했어요 - I did it<br />
*회사 - company<br />
*원숭이 - monkey<br />
*법원 - court of law<br />
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http://www.koreanwikiproject.com/wiki/Talk:Internet_and_text_messaging
Talk:Internet and text messaging
2018-06-14T03:26:22Z
<p>Okeofork: /* Is 너무 -> 넘 and 처음 -> 첨 is related? */ new section</p>
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<div>==On Emoticons==<br />
*OTL - Shape of a person crying on the floor<br />
From my experience with a good Korean friend and many hours of online communication, I would think it better to show this as:<br />
*OTL - Shape of a person fallen on the floor in representation of a failure or mistake<br />
:i.e., "I forgot my homework OTL"<br />
--[[User:Galinaros|Galinaros]] 21:56, 19 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Jay -- what is 멍미?? --[[User:Bluesoju|Bluesoju]] 06:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:'멍미?'는 '머임?' 이라는 단어의 오타예요. <br />
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:'머임'이라고 컴퓨터키보드로 치려면 ㅁ → ㅓ → ㅇ → ㅣ → ㅁ 이라고 입력해야하는데,<br />
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:오타때문에 ㅁ → ㅓ → ㅇ → ㅁ → ㅣ 라고 입력돼서 '멍미'가 나온것입니다.<br />
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:자주 오타가 생기는 단어이기 때문에, '멍미'라고 그냥 쓰는 사람이 많아져서, 이제는 그냥 재밌게 '멍미'라고 쓰는것 같습니다. <br><br />
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:뭐지? → 뭐임? → 머임? <br />
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:머임? = 멍미? 의 뜻은 다양한데,<br />
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:what?? 이라는 뜻으로도 쓸 수가 있고,<br />
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:누군가가 어이없는 말을 했을 때, "멍미?" 라고 쓸 수 있습니다.<br />
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:또, 어이없는 장면을 보았을때나 어이없는 소식을 들었을때, "멍미?" 라고 합니다.<br />
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:주로 10대나 젊은 사람들이 많이 사용합니다. <br />
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:Jay<br />
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==Nateon==<br />
Still deciding where to put nateon warning messages. Here's one<br />
*" 지인을 사칭하거나 급박한 상황을 빙자한 금전 피해사례가 빈번하게 발생되고 있으니, 금전 요구시 전화로 반드시 대화 상대를 확인하십시오.신고하기 "<br />
*"상대방의 현재 접속지는 국외 등 피싱위험지역입니다. 지인을 사칭하거나 급박한 상황을 빙자한 금전 피해사례가 빈번하게 발생되고 있으니, 금전 요구시 전화로 반드시 대화 상대를 확인하십시오."<br />
*파일 전송의 일부 또는 전체가 사용자의 요청으로 취소(중단)되었거나, 파일을 전송(수신)할 수 없는 상태입니다.<br />
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==Basic phrases==<br />
I'm not sure whether to put it in this section, but a place to learn how to say basic phrases like "are you there?" and "be right back."<br />
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what does 풉 mean? --[[User:DigitalSoju|DigitalSoju]] 08:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Is 너무 -> 넘 and 처음 -> 첨 is related? ==<br />
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The rule described here says that ㅁ can replace 음 in some words ending in 음. Could this be adjusted to allow for words like 너무 which can be shortened to 넘?</div>
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